From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 4K Bugs Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:55:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87d1ttxnrr.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> <567E4ABA.3080803@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451141780 17462 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2015 14:56:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 15:56:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqGP-0006YV-Mp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:56:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38840 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqGO-0001nM-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:56:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53905) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqGK-0001n3-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:56:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqGH-0005wT-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:56:04 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqGH-0005wP-6d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:56:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqFt-0000MQ-9j; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:55:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <567E4ABA.3080803@online.de> ("Andreas \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?R\=F6hle\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?r\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:07:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCqFt-0000MQ-9j MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451746537.4798@nSNLcwaPnYsZlnfqypg6Qw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196889 Archived-At: Andreas R=F6hler writes: > What about getting bugs deleted when not dealt with after some time -=20 > while informing the author? That is what many projects do -- when they make a new release, they close all bug reports pertaining to older releases. I see the attraction, especially when there's a shortage of people to handle bug reports, but it seems rather wasteful. Bug reports have value. Some more than others, of course. :-) If they present a reproducible bug, then it seems odd to close the report. If, on the other hand, they are not reproducible, or they require more data from the user for us to proceed with debugging (and that data doesn't arrive within a certain period (for the Emacs bug tracker, that period is "some years", apparently), then they should be closed, because we can't proceed in any meaningful sense. That's why I'm going through the bug reports marked "moreinfo" and closing the ones that seem hopeless, and prodding the ones that seem perhaps to be possible to proceed with. But having a morass of bug reports, like we do now, is (I think) discouraging to everybody. No matter what you do, it doesn't seem to matter, because there's just so many reports. So unless more people step up, roll up their sleeves and do some bug triage from time to time, I wouldn't be upset if we just closed all bugs reports that were older than last release. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no