From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dmitri Paduchikh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Anaphoric macros: increase visibility Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:15:47 +0500 Message-ID: <87d1fq9cbw.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87wpdyivvf.fsf@web.de> <87h9529n04.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1484388978 3006 195.159.176.226 (14 Jan 2017 10:16:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:16:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Emacs developers To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 14 11:16:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSLNM-0007GL-N9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:15:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47245 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSLNR-0007oT-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSLNK-0007oD-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSLNH-00079R-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:15:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x243.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::243]:32914) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSLNG-00079E-WE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:15:51 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id x1so2619746lff.0 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:15:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Ub/choagCKBzFL01A4zoeUdWfUiIw6PTSWUbhHMoBl8=; b=MQoFIG9BI8BqNHDHqMjOtXS6IalZR7P79+bbIjPsxaB/kpCR3UadlPwE8DJ1FrpwiE uLD+jpFo54YQ7m4e6KSz6u2tgzQRXGMcH1Rs78x7othphirQwj47+yz4c4Qc79PDiFko lr7cl+94zBTI3C5YKyAahsrs2t55445MPmIGwe6OPamQDM+aGkjKYr4v9bDqfkqYKIut mArclfixGKXMmfiS1wbHvFuCodMga5Q3AoT4pTxi4fdV6GhRBthg0rBKarT3hJLTblTT IRhpbJiYucVsuQd7qTCY3GRwbJGuLsp8xZkTtD5oy5+EQaLYjt8PIe43doaLHo/aJdVB NlOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Ub/choagCKBzFL01A4zoeUdWfUiIw6PTSWUbhHMoBl8=; b=pUUQUtdRas+lHq4DvxxKy6mV0p5koAte7uO7eCa0De7RNONaLa2OeIRlJeuVKb92ws mfaCbAsU8hYPOvwgSlW/VNTffNxhEzfEbWH2RFBMKjA9sO2CLEdUgf+EF2QKBOYR+/Fc qyONRalxCCjiL4pbwGdokMnlUdu2xxfXghB+JNmmvL6WwhSSic9HBvyN5sM5bM62q3F/ p1az/V0LiY6ZhaA0CkrNxqHH8esT586pthf08X2i6p/3+/CuUofBuFV02h0T4tWVXtF5 XEBm1ixDDSOaiyMUnToCZAdMZeeq0kYVLM1u0TwhgRBZvvr/oEvb15pj/Wo5/mJPce69 52iw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKOQ+kgN8RzJ1sm1z5Ps+3Iot8DlnMm4nHU0iUwBIPwpqRYw7XwGV7nOUNtoPnSjg== X-Received: by 10.25.242.7 with SMTP id q7mr7680155lfh.19.1484388949688; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:15:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from gmail.com ([46.48.49.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s63sm3201773lja.49.2017.01.14.02.15.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:15:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Tino Calancha's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:56:56 +0900 (JST)") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::243 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211267 Archived-At: Tino Calancha wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Dmitri Paduchikh wrote: >>Comparing if-it, when-it with if-let, when-let, it seems >>clear that they represent different tradeoffs of simplicity vs. flexibility. > Do we need to choose? We could have defined both kinds of anaphoric > macros. I am not disagree with that. Just wanted to note that existing names of anaphoric macros are not best ones. [...] > Although I prefer your names, i.e., if-it than aif, it might be argued that > there are historical reasons in favour of the latter. Well, aif, awhen are at least more discoverable through C-h f aif for those who used to these names. They can be aliases. With best regards Dmitri Paduchikh