From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: *scratch* buffer documentation Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 04:27:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87d0cbepcu.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <69AD1F67-BA40-4342-996E-CAC6CC545E2A@traduction-libre.org> <83lfr0v4ib.fsf@gnu.org> <3B5C95CE-77A8-48DA-BD5D-6BD8D8828C30@traduction-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="90554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 26 04:29:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqW-000NPq-OE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 04:29:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqV-0001XD-Js for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:29:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqO-0001Ws-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqN-0002rK-Qz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:29:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:49134 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqN-0002qq-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 22:29:47 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikJqJ-000NBV-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2019 04:29:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:Vu79z0sQTk6jTd0jvdZYycHjKeg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243639 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: >> I Think that you are missing one important thing: users are generally >> not idiots. > > It is not about being idiots or not. But about how self-contained > should the documentation be. > > If you show me the place in the documentation where the default > behavior is described then I'll need to worry about why I did not find > it. 19.4 Killing Buffers ‘C-x k’ (‘kill-buffer’) kills one buffer, [...] If you ask to kill a file-visiting buffer that is modified, then you must confirm with ‘yes’ before the buffer is killed. A corollary is that other buffers may not trigger the confirmation. >> Emacs does have its dark corners, but I don't think saving buffers > > Indeed, saving buffers is not an issue. It is killing buffers that is. IMO the implication that Emacs only cares about the persistence of changes made to file-visiting buffers is clear. If the user, somehow, expects that Emacs will warn on quitting about changes to *scratch*, he will swiftly learn what "This buffer is for text that is not saved" means :-)