From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs for pure Gtk3 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 03:11:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87czymyase.fsf@gnus.jao.io> References: <834kt673cy.fsf@gnu.org> <20201117.235000.1193207765247665462.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <83sg98qa53.fsf@gnu.org> <20201124.221230.709072983540112407.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <73ce02af-50e4-0bfc-29de-0ea06a791c0c@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10170"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:KiBirQJmk0Y/T0u93gx2uDZiFaY= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 05:08:42 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvuh7-0002Yw-Lb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 05:08:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvuh6-0002dI-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvuge-0002Av-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:08:12 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvugc-0000YM-UG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:08:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvugZ-00025c-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 05:08:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Attribution: jao X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-URL: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262342 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 03 2021, 황병희 wrote: [...] > Thanks for testing Dmitry^^^ and i really like that people using pgtk > emacs because i think Wayland will be the next linux distro's soil. FWIW, i've been using the pgtk variant with sway for a while, and it's working well for me, no show-stoppers so far. it sure feels snappier than x11. font rendering looks pretty similar to me; if anything, i'd say it's a tad crispier. two minor glitches: i use transparency, and sometimes i've had to re-enable my theme after startup for it to really be set at the level i'm asking (95%); and emacs doesn't seem to realize that i'm using a dark gtk theme when it chooses its default background/foreground (but i don't think that works for me in X/exwm either, although there i'm just using startx to launch the "desktop"). in all other regards, pgtk is working remarkably smoothly, and the only disadvantage is that it seems a bit memory hungry: it easly goes to ~1.5Gb of RES RAM with the same setup and usage that makes the X version consume ~800Mb compiled without any toolkit (and that's with exwm, so in X11 emacs is also the window manager). but it's definitely a pleasure to have emacs working on pure wayland, and i find myself wondering how hard would it be to port also exwm (which uses xcb, i think) so that i could get rid of sway too :) so many thanks and kudos to the developers, and please keep up the good work! cheers, jao -- More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them - Harlod J. Smith