From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 20:18:23 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87czyjnu14.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg7gbug6.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2h7a180.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11729"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Gregory Heytings , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 19:32:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwr89-0002wq-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:32:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwr88-0006D8-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:32:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwr6p-0005eB-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:31:07 -0500 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:37077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwr6m-0003Hy-Dx; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:31:06 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.98.64 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-98-64.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.98.64]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12AF1240005; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 18:30:51 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83y2h7a180.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 05 Jan 2021 16:48:47 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262535 Archived-At: >> It is also, I think (but it's just a feeling, I did not follow the >> discussions at that time), similar to the changes in Emacs 27 about >> which Drew loudly complained and that make Emacs 27 unuseable >> for him. > > We don't really know what makes Emacs 27 unusable for Drew, because we > don't have enough information regarding the problems he faces, and no > one else reported anything similar, so it seems. So I cannot see how > the issue of Emacs 27's usability for Drew can support any conclusions > yet. I too don't understand why while in dozens of libraries Drew routinely adds backward-compatible aliases such as (when (= emacs-major-version 27) (defun y-or-n-p () pre-27 body ... but not in this case.