From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 21:54:58 +0000 Message-ID: <87czxygdl9.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6314"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 21 22:55:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hvn-0001Y7-Ux for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 22:55:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55648 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hvn-0002jf-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:55:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hv2-0002Jx-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:55:08 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:46456) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hv0-0003eY-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:55:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7FiNikqxWrpHDDC6MoRfrD+t00Odlj33C+SUMn84n5A=; b=QpmGbgGcrBPbPM14DUIiAu1F8 RRnKirUo+Dx/CB/w91wJaYou/M43vltokL6VPep6RiQOtVXaHGxq8zOeoYxWxWTL4f4aqyHzXqCtC Xv0OkzqfGCZFkIUa1FdzBiJhoy3zVQtqG9rxmdLup8cBxO0tCkMatgGJMYMEaSJLDVKR43HwA6nX/ /dxvl9Cc6sBlfmRyPmI2NewbDAshgCEnRsJOs3caMlNSQ/H/ldeyWgFaEDzVDIY9XCXAnx4L0HjuO 4wy03C++PXrOb8/Ct4M5rNt/3ylknzyDDkYFqONkAwC2ZK5L4rUiqyDUilO7WHlMfDb1h/lO+4g8C HShU/HorQ==; Original-Received: from cpc142648-benw12-2-0-cust627.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.10.74.116]:39902 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1l2hux-0003if-R2; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 21:55:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:41:39 -0800") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.129.138.110; envelope-from=phillip.lord@russet.org.uk; helo=cloud103.planethippo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263258 Archived-At: Stephen Leake writes: > There will probably be a similar number of posts to emacs.devel about > "where is org?"; the answer is either "cd elpa; make packages/org" or > "git submodule update --init". > > Comments? A few questions, rather. One, both for myself and when building for Windows I use worktrees. So I have emacs-git/feature/native-comp emacs-git/master emacs-git/emacs-27 For personal use I build in source, for Windows building I use these for out of source builds. How does that work with ELPA sub-modules? Git worktrees I think hard links, so the files sizes are much smaller, but with submodules I am going to get some of ELPA and it's .git multiple times? My own abortive attempt to achieve ELPA bundled packages (https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=feature/core-elpa-by-copy), solved one of these two problems -- a single ELPA git repo, but still duplicated bundled packages in each worktree. Two, I can live with the submodule update if I have to, but this will have to be done on each Worktree I guess. Why not add `configure --with-elpa` https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=feature/core-elpa-by-copy Three, out of source builds would I presume include the submodule in the main git tree, not in the out of source location? Phil