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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264183 Archived-At: Hello Gregory, On Sun 07 Feb 2021 at 10:05PM GMT, Gregory Heytings wrote: > It is proposed to repurpose one key, and to reserve it in the key binding > conventions for third-party packages. The keys that could be reserved for > that purpose are: > > Option 1. C-z, with a single exception: "C-z C-z" would be bound to > "suspend-frame" > > Option 2. C-z and M-z, with two exceptions: "C-z C-z" would be bound to > "suspend-frame", and "M-z M-z" to "zap-to-char" > > Option 3. C-o, with a single exception: "C-o C-o" would be bound to > "open-line" > > Option 4. C-o and M-o, with two exceptions: "C-o C-o" would be bound to > "open-line", and "M-o M-o" to "facemenu-keymap" C-z seems like the obvious choice out of these -- it's a duplicate binding, there was a lot of support for repurposing it in that recent thread, and those who were a bit reticent about repurposing were okay with the idea of C-z C-z suspending the frame with something in the message area after a single C-z. Thanks for the proposal. -- Sean Whitton