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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270837 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > > Hi Philip, > >>> I'm now on 1181c606b3 but still "/msg nickservx test" will message >>> "ickservx test" to the user N on libera.chat. I'd much prefer if >>> that told me that there is no (online) user nickservx rather than >>> messaging some mostly random stranger. >> >> I can imagine that both use-cases could be of interest, so it would >> probably be best to add a flag to regulate this. > > Fine with me but I'm keen to learn about the use-case where the current > behavior is wanted. I guess there is a use-case because otherwise the > IRC server wouldn't have that implemented as-is. I was thinking about when you want to message a friend who is currently marked as away. > And IMHO when messaging nickserv or other service bots receiving > confidential data, the current behavior is not acceptable. I'm not sure > if the automatic authentication in terms of `rcirc-authinfo' checks if > nickserv (or whatever) is actually available and, if not, falls into > that trap just as I did by messaging the non-existent NickServ manually. That is true. It shouldn't be hard to add a check to ensure this. > Bye, > Tassilo -- Philip K.