From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shorthand variable named "elisp-shorthands" seems wrong Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:02:57 +0800 Message-ID: <87czoutedq.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87tui6twco.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87tui6twco.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtnytg6t.fsf@yahoo.com> <83wnn2kzmd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tui6kzcv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28662"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 14:04:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUpMz-0007GC-SO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:04:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUpMy-0001YK-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUpLm-0000nL-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic316-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.146]:43268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUpLi-0006oF-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 08:03:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1632744188; bh=rLkoVAbCsKRcnw1PMiJNyqf+u0T8Y4J+LRtJZIjOgR8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=UadtesweF8BtEcHidPxu7mNWhbuVqLHv5jdVXaj+Y82iNNo64Bb6EHaiRM6kLY3CUJBUYk1oDzBsx+YqjFmbmKcJBg+7CGh4b2S1GWNGFXzP71o2Z7uNm5PDmp9Uwp34HvOfqEx5g1L6jmtJoZ0x4DBlXtwbEC8vq7OKZF0B3vtuRXJtnfXMuB/JAS2/Qwmd7ZNVjTnQwpPTGPy81Jk7FRtkliM9VkkCAkgctXBnbtSl04TcoPEbCcQCZlQ15Iod9w0LKW8aSRAGp6iBAP5HJWLBKZ9oLYO3FraJtKo6Soty7b6eFoX/8tKQxSSghMv/4Vofctaiv3brlpjH4ncQIQ== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1632744188; bh=VxG/hyJakjt6kOcIvaT4W2AEnoYbvZO3jKkUpfea/tI=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=uaDyP/sv5ztDCKxnx6iVeyjWgqwzG3AOkpNEBHjlhUMzKdEFyvHAFsaUsPj7kV803byBn0d462aPrFTLNSJ2STAdqbJ1grBqK8fJaRdlmskMbkmDClOQeN6aP9QLLos3BpohyWzLyLE1gUpIWegIZGVMDLSF1+GFFd94Nkg5eS2o1vOhhgWiKe5Shet/P5luuM9tsyP8+8WoOUA6sYb9guy6sv2Ze5rKiR8l51vKPhonI4suX/AoXgRanIU/ClqfS/QZEzgCydIJwCxjEr8H/ppGANT8+YoM8blNu/uce3/cwSJQQCsozqG8AjR6yotTR+n3wNBWNBqQzArK1jT+fw== X-YMail-OSG: NCsTaowVM1nbf6DvJ4oXqWuW6st3rvvCHeDMLpnnxENH3SOEn9nRBMGNXzlhK_Q 8E4QUU3TEziGUMlCvSFp.SbtlmvG_drw4kfSqUD7YbEZrXAkA55os2KWwEfA6CSxvQ_.naiL5BeV DpmRmwN46T.czKM8VIi7Uh.skhdmVIpkK1o2R8OMBstqxpKPJdjvWva30P1.fjYCp3oCLjOMit4t jhYNBHKB.f50YFTiDeyiQ6szh9O8wt1d1CD0xSeayTQjT0IHHXztAZ9j.9RWPRUHXKPUh6287er2 Jwc9TQZO8VmKC7TNBWNOVxNWbcJujucWyRhWH0UrM1lF8qr63jQbdqRtprrXetWMX6Rv1TqnLm6v RJj2SEXl4ozG8w1AYeZl9QMV0EmwP8_OTXfjVhX8vBhgMJBx7yR7mEASeu8Q5x3JTF921p.mAH._ 2fW2Ws1lFXznFnMOKCwqo5MfEBcZWdH1YzK8Cb9J4t1XoQVTE9cPxcTYEjuZUtsmdN_mtFVQMk1b I9aUrwIjPNZ87ef3bPlTbIhDfGi8QlGglPd5aXI1J.3OjOhKA4_nWvq5DeJyWmw6Wqksqk2KrN1O T2AEbhqAAE1xfRWPhfNGukDN6uWgflNJgN0FV2tqbj5ARe1Ql.lG2D3TMqDcKIQEXLpoFsTk_t3O eSqtepcPNnJFEruYN69sVPSuOA2hnuo8p2n94eQjo4iNKlQ1nqIaF5DAdxtMnOdT60zrQhkKzbPT L_dVR8gindelW2Rsb9XROrQ.U9hx8XOZ6ax7uzYerw26CU9bK7xrkbuAQr7LM36YvsjaDeDE42YG MWj8KdiRX0AlLJ15rN7x6Yb7zeMUrFWh5NNSwQ4BYR X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic316.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:03:08 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode504.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7b553639475505aa4145173bea6cb26b; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:03:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83tui6kzcv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:54:40 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19043 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic316-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275575 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Which it is, don't you agree? I think I should rephrase what I said earlier. I don't agree that it applies to what currently uses the `elisp' prefix, which is currently used by the likes of `elisp-byte-code-mode', and the `elisp-xref--' group of variables. > Or how about elisp-symbol-shorthands? That still has the `elisp' prefix, while something like `read-shorthands' would be consistent with (as discussed further up this thread) the `read-circle' and `read-symbol-positions-list' variables we already have. Not to mention it would be somewhat more consistent with the plethora of print-XXX variables. Thanks.