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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278121 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:22:39 +0200, joakim@verona.se said: >> That=CA=BCs the first I=CA=BCve heard of it. GnuTLS too old, too new= , something else? joakim> Too new in Fedora(at the time before I threw in the towel at le= ast). OK. I=CA=BCll guess we'll start seeing reports at some point then. >> Debian has always worked ok for me. Although I don=CA=BCt target >> reproducible builds. joakim> Well, I could likely build emacs just fine in a docker containe= r using joakim> debian as the base, and run the container in my host fedora os.= I know joakim> some people do this. This approach is also brittle with how to = manage joakim> the src tree for development. I just point my dockers at a local directory, then you don=CA=BCt need to w= orry about volume persistence. Robert --=20