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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285675 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 08:04:35 -0500, Stefan Monnier said: >> If anything needs deleting from that menu, it=CA=BCs 'Make frame on >> display'. That=CA=BCs useful to a vanishingly small percentage of u= sers, >> and I doubt they'd use the menu to do it. Stefan> But that's also a nice way to advertise this feature that's obv= iously Stefan> not shared by very many applications. My conditional 'if' was obviously not conditional enough. "If it is decided that the length of that menu needs to be reduced by sacrificing an entry, then this is the one that should go". But my opinion on menus should not be given great weight, given that I don=CA=BCt use them (except when I accidentally hit F10). Robert --=20