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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287841 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 08:37:20 -0700, Sean Whitton said: >> +#ifdef HAVE_PGTK >> + fputs ("Due to a limitation in GTK 3, Emacs built with PGTK w= ill simply exit when a" >> + "display connection is closed." >> + "\nThere is no way to fix this problem, so if you want to use= Emacs on Wayland" >> + "on multiple displays and have Emacs survive disconnects, you= lose.", Sean> Nice idea to avoid referring users to a bug report that doesn't a= pply to Sean> pgtk. But is there truly "no way to fix this problem" in the pgt= k case Sean> too? Is it really that fundamental to the design of GTK3? There is no way for *emacs* to fix this problem. The GTK guys have been sitting on it for 15 years. I=CA=BCm sure they could fix it if they wanted to. Robert --=20