From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PGTK-related misconceptions Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 13:31:39 +0800 Message-ID: <87czhfkldw.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87lew7qdtj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgkjvujl.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9474"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 18 07:33:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ngK0z-0002Eq-9r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 07:33:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngK0x-0003Gf-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 01:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngJzO-0002XT-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 01:31:54 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic304-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.191.146]:33652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ngJzN-0004gC-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 01:31:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650259910; bh=8+V2eK9iJRp7cexEyl4sTZ4/BWMlVJk+KvmIfRgZ0KM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=q4ytm7GYnaSTE3f1zfRf6L96+GlaU0YbUkreQXaWxXmh2Lk5wz2HcJeUzPWVwENJemPaF/rITOuiszqpnzvSZPjyRlvyEuQ9dOoOk5l9JkywvVhvL8vkw06IDkG7mITdbcXN+G1MCnwLZCAbLSkOGmZl6AHAjL72K749S0BsqRDKUvHUboKgMPoZvTZfzfXX+peEXMpTjURmkIhoOnHZLGSl/FsLs539hrbnFCRVNSy2WVtlbOemfT2k0eDV6oUsGFEW4gw+WfossOetTw3RokzGWYSNzlWGbgH/sDLO7RUpAZtNLkVLkAK5dwWo9xSHR4LFSBQSgZXwK62FaTca8g== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1650259910; bh=CtTFDtI02f6yLflgjKa3X1GgBsB6/4t31zB2GXJS8WN=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=Y5CeeUlPs9rrt6apz8fIiCaM6dDpEJfB/gMpSNW5evF+WK+ON93nisFmJEsB7I3L96tB3sWJjvWes9OJZghNM2PLgDGkjOKUYIOeYlANOLPeXCIlzpNxwhrq04exj+do6jdf0C9xLvzOLrnTnzMpIo+LUoAOvITeF31mKd/4r+eow5gc0aYs4u6MA5Vz0keEFJ3hKnxdQvsrx6MooOzHKenIwsxgGH3wxdjdvvE9sPLDHPDFz0BvcS3TGXrKcO3rX2QBesltn2iuLr3gveJg+vujo4M4tJlVIIKJqUftTtdaloXRGdskzKoo5j6ipuRMQzuZoRBvEMf4BkbzYDxvxA== X-YMail-OSG: 6_EHeF4VM1nmVswli2rVugfISz2pSGyLLWSWva_p3nh5BiW7OmaVM3Kpuh8Jq1H hwDKF6Rms7B5.gR1igVrtG0GnUWi4oJlC98xVSrArZDj6IQxZZljOv9xU.t3evt0JHwBbPcSRC3T X2PSTFhrmVyOuH0MiPlesb8sCH0skZzUPH_ml.LbNNPNvMv0hXjhgodGlrrJVyQu3dFigOxW4XMi 53wkSph_rRpV9hQ9gKcPuViTs758K2RJmfZ.Lr07XWPz41ngCI9xuxA3_Aeqej9Zh8h.CVheXX2n d0pNjEj9bL3_xUmrIWjGdUweW_9Dr2zYgVEFJVcKFKYbu93aYIUnDT3Lf3lExv.XW9p_.0B2hLzC 30tu8liBvrSkvcryFSZkuJQACLqEqq3tzW6FbYD.qRhb7EUALrzgHDbcmNXYyUmZXL0hnZ8X_CKC RhNT2RqkOegzJ4ISRr7YMRjXy5mHzZD.EpO14r_7WQLaobFqB_5DcUpDyO3.raC5k8.Z4y0Mn_zN RMil7wYULaYglhARdBaQx96TGcdOYPDtlNGeY6hICkuvnonWTPsNuvIfDdBadnujTjL_Wr9rsow8 wUEh3HotM9k7.AWeekFmK0MKtpESNiLPt1CMmQMs3vv9uTIWGTtkX8lx0zBmXnbaLlzp2fK23_MS 9dlVZblxX43RXrQvkInfX1RowYHj9D5K3BE4eO.y4g4GKlJELTKrmnCo01v3OhBwgWWZkJ1C5fZ5 JFEXTg1BdSvXHba3fsxTYfM.pNTovx.cvJEXInbGGKBzK80ZXjBM6vTlE0RX1eyLK7.1IBGcj3e. AJIZIL6.iETWVbiXBS4cw7bob.LHusGLfsndroWn.G X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 05:31:50 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--canary-production-sg3-cfddc4f9d-scfk8 (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 804690ac1d84ed5953aed0c721d39d7d; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 05:31:43 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87zgkjvujl.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Sun, 17 Apr 2022 22:18:22 -0700") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20048 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.191.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic304-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288597 Archived-At: Sean Whitton writes: > Hello, > > On Fri 15 Apr 2022 at 10:29am +08, Po Lu wrote: > >> People using X should _never_ use PGTK. The regular X build does a much >> better job at supporting that than PGTK ever will. > > The discussion of pgtk in INSTALL doesn't say this. If I was packaging > Emacs for a distro I think I could be misled into thinking I should > replace my gtk package with pgtk. But in fact I should supply both. INSTALL already recommends PGTK only for using alternative window systems, not X, which is explained first. Thanks.