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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290163 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean, Jean Louis writes: > It is interesting that the whole survey is not talking about =E2=80=9Ctext > editing=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 I understand, this is Emacs, but you should be= talking > about text editing so much more. Text editors are about text. If there are any specific questions you think would be good, please suggest them. > ** Which of the following activities do you use Emacs for? :MultiSelect:M= andatory: > - [ ] Work > - [ ] Hobby projects > - [ ] *other* > > The question is vague, rather general. Some people will say =E2=80=9Cwork= =E2=80=9D for > hobby projects. In my life I work what I like, and I make money too > and on hobby projects there is some money, so is it work. For me that > question is vague. > > In that above question, in the context of the question, I suggest that > you expand it to following (while editing my English): > [*snip] To me it seems like your suggestions conflate work and the nature of one=E2= =80=99s work. Since we ask that later anyway, I don=E2=80=99t think having that ext= ra specificity here is actually of much benefit. E.g. > - [ ] I use it as student or pupil in school To me seems equivalent to use=3Dwork + job=3Dstudent. All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--