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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b502227e94b25e6f07ca39dfa86c64d3; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 04:15:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:06:58 -0400") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20595 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.199; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic301-30.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294202 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Is using Mate running with GTK 3 tantamount to using GNOME 3? > Or is it still like GNOME 2? It is still like GNOME 2. > Another question: do programs that use GTK 2 work well with Mate > if Mate uses GTK 3? Yes, as long as GTK+ 2.x is installed. Those programs generally work well everywhere. > Another question: do Mate programs ever get screwed by surprise calls > to _exit inside GTK 3? Yes, they do.