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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1aa7f508eddf43787999a4aca25026cd; Sun, 05 Mar 2023 23:59:59 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <443197ca-8cfc-3340-6617-1a24d05ddee2@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:38:35 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.33; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-10.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304010 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > On 2023-03-05 04:13, Po Lu wrote: > >> I'm not aware of a serious security bug in Google GCC or Clang which >> affects compiled code. > > That wasn't the sort of security bug I was worried about. By not > supporting these obsolete NDKs, Google is saying that apps built for > older Android versions are unreliable or insecure or whatever. We > can't expect users to fix those old Android bugs, and we likely lack > resources to modify Emacs to work around them. Security problems shouldn't be specific to the version of the NDK you build with, since all symbols are in /system/lib/libc.so. Android doesn't do symbol versioning AFAIK. > Is this referring to Replicant 6? Though I know little about > Replicant, I suspect it'll be better for everyone concerned if > Replicant 11 is the porting target, as that's where active Replicant > development is (even though no official version has been > released). Replicant 6 is pretty old and has known and seemingly > unfixable security issues. I'd rather we stop arguing about this, but please keep in mind that my stance on Android version support will not change, since I see people using old, unsupported versions every day.