From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unboxed package manager Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:06:27 +0000 Message-ID: <87cz51na2k.fsf@posteo.net> References: <57668895-8EEA-44F7-BD46-9CDFAA11FD2C@gmail.com> <87zg87saw8.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfdxgc0f.fsf@gmail.com> <87a605or8e.fsf@posteo.net> <87o7olg9mq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3788"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lynn Winebarger , Yuan Fu , emacs-devel To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 21 21:07:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1peiGV-0000d6-Ov for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:07:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1peiFf-0006xb-2y; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:06:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1peiFd-0006x7-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1peiFb-0004OK-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB19D2403FF for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:06:28 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1679429189; bh=zd82yb/LFJz7Uj2ocSY+SFxpVIR1NXlKpgX+xntmCL4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=cf55lwpLymmBSjsCEX4OF+edv05Xyxy3AfR56Q0s6B0JdhT9xVfyqA/SmIgAXhLDU xFSdoY167Mv3alQS0OqjgjasT2K9T6IpgiPUX+bNJkUQvOtHQutTTfXyHXM4K8bi86 h/vnHWonmIJEdZvZ3c9AK5GJvwU1GsQEQB4IO4kSqHPMFz1/PokUrajfMN95b+tACh GgDiPXUM8das8/+PQB9cQxhut6QDZ0slBXyGr0UHHgWaOCmCsrFiavcG4g1JAUI5Fs 3MHBnP9RlD8dFNHjJ52jyQpTWyDlzH1A354x8E46gtECnbzcPVgGv9UyQcAFntaHzk vN9bva7iM1yGA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Ph2g82cbtz9rxL; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:06:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87o7olg9mq.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Tue, 21 Mar 2023 20:57:49 +0100") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304682 Archived-At: Augusto Stoffel writes: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 19:10, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > >> Augusto Stoffel writes: >> >>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 15:25, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >> >> There is no strict need for this to be a package manager. I propose >> something like that a year ago: >> >> https://wwwcip.cs.fau.de/~oj14ozun/src+etc/site-lisp.el >> >> In principle I could bundle this into a package and add it to ELPA. > > Yes, I remember that. And if memory serves someone argued that this > could be greatly generalized and etc., which is probably true. It was "generalised" into package-vc. > Anyway, I think it makes sense for basic things one needs to write a > sensible configuration to be built in, but if there's no consensus as to > how the ideal "site-lisp.el" should look like, then a package is better > than nothing. OK, I'll try and prepare it then. -- Philip Kaludercic