From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 05:48:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87cyzsly4c.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87il9owg0f.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ELMtAMzIU3em179QpRZQyHFTxt0= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 12 07:29:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUhC0-0003es-1k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 07:29:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qUhBZ-0000ug-Rv; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 01:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qUfc7-0008QN-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 23:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qUfc5-0000X6-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 23:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qUfc2-0004H6-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 05:48:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 01:29:04 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308603 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: > I concur. Have been suggesting to have a basic version of > emacs that would be considered complete and stable, while > minimizing the risk of instability due to feature additions. We have a basic version, and then packets with more ... > Every project should have such aim and achieve it. Clearly, > the core requirements must be well defined, and the scope > limited in terms of the essential features to fulfill its > primary purpose. Maintaining emacs for it to do everything > could halt its continued development structure. Again, it is modular ... Old Cathedral half-discontinued algorithm maybe works _sometimes_ for small and/or very well-defined projects by nature but Emacs is a world already, too late for that to ever work, if indeed desired from the get go which is debatable ... P2P review a nice way of putting it, another way is everyone do as much as possible about everything and no, overhead issues with maintenance complexity are a miniature detriment compared to the immense gains all that software brings. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal