From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upstreaming org-element-ast (was: Improving Emacs' iCalendar support) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:31:12 +0000 Message-ID: <87cyhg0zjz.fsf@localhost> References: <87ed4dss2x.fsf@ohm.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87mshq9w5c.fsf@ohm.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <86ed31j6zk.fsf@gnu.org> <87ldx9vsnb.fsf@localhost> <868qt8kj6f.fsf@gnu.org> <87ikscx5io.fsf@localhost> <867c8skhy6.fsf@gnu.org> <87frngx4fx.fsf@localhost> <864j3wkczm.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35777"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rwl@recursewithless.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 12:30:46 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tQPbB-00098O-66 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:30:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQPaQ-0006PF-B7; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:29:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQPaI-0006OA-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:29:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQPaC-0008H1-LM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6AB1240101 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:29:41 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1735126181; bh=9eLp4PPa3JyoyTziMnXjbm+0QrLzoWMiWt/8gy7cHfQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=hwCd5Ar/QRjE1w1RMROkQHEaropTB4+Qe+GC2nIzMW3noY8Qibn7LixAjNS4TsLFG rjqU7VSKugpfbr6oom9mnWJimvVifOQ/aFipt0vNnVI1cXZPvMtIKFQoKngJ/szeOH 5EoMQevtNtY1QF0BImfCAYXn3eb2hGxD1nKLzVVbY+UM4vBaDyiAPdZsGFI/kKXcMf HpfVOjDS12RfP+xLYQQdvDPthYkwI0sO0UbnQ8zznkAOPcvVEQiZoVj2FFRDKTzSH2 jzKHRdcAF2lm4mVY0lsymG0u5vL5lKdzVAdsmHqohYRU7RELwiA+MlZ9EmIFSTU1xt DUIXIDiy6SHEA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4YJ8g9201Sz9rxL; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:29:41 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <864j3wkczm.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327067 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Also, there are certain things in the library that are specific to >> Org: >> ... > > My point is that the sooner we do this (quite unpleasant) job, the > smaller it is, and the smaller are the effects on other packages which > use it. In bug#74994, Richard made a decision not to use org-element-ast and instead implement a custom parser generator. Richard, is there any specific reason why you had to make things from scratch? May org-element-ast be changed to fit your needs? If org-element-ast is not going to be useful outside Org mode, I see no good reason to invest time into upstreaming it, after all. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode maintainer, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at