From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about copy-region-as-kill Date: 07 Apr 2002 09:56:58 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87bscwe36t.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <87ofh09xjq.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <200204050602.g3562Dl18586@aztec.santafe.edu> <87bscx7rlf.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <200204061732.g36HWSb19584@aztec.santafe.edu> <87k7rkmuk0.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <87zo0gbfb2.fsf@emacswiki.org> <1018138376.27236.49.camel@space-ghost> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018141397 1846 127.0.0.1 (7 Apr 2002 01:03:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16u15R-0000Tf-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 03:03:17 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16u1J8-0004g5-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 03:17:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16u15E-0007e2-00; Sat, 06 Apr 2002 20:03:04 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.131]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16u12h-0007C3-00; Sat, 06 Apr 2002 20:00:27 -0500 Original-Received: from tc-2-179.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.179] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 16u12a-0004jE-00; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 10:00:20 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 573F03054; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 09:56:59 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Colin Walters System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <1018138376.27236.49.camel@space-ghost> Original-Lines: 24 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2434 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2434 Colin Walters writes: > In the interim, I will change ibuffer to use overlays for some > properties. But for what it's worth, I think we should move towards an > XEmacs-style "extent" mechanism. I thought `extent's were more like overlays, except optionally persistent. No? In any case, perhaps you're right that text-properties should be optionally buffer-specific, but that doesn't mean it's the proper thing to get rid of the distinction between text-properties and overlays. Overlays are distinct _objects_ that can be manipulated as such, and lend their properties to the underlying buffer they're in, whereas text-properties are not independent of the text at all. These very different interfaces are both useful in different circumstances. -Miles -- [|nurgle|] ddt- demonic? so quake will have an evil kinda setting? one that will make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? [iddt] nurg, that's the goal