From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Text mode menu wishlist Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:08 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87bs75iudv.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <874rcz2m8z.fsf@sachac.linuxboxen.org> <87it1faxav.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87sn0ity6h.fsf@sachac.linuxboxen.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031681735 22062 127.0.0.1 (10 Sep 2002 18:15:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17opXx-0005jg-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:33 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17oq8U-0001vu-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:53:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17opXb-00030Q-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17opVD-0002jG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17opVB-0002fW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.cablecom.net ([62.2.33.101]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17opVA-0002fS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:12:40 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.swissonline.ch (mail-4.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.85]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g8AICc20010105 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:12:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@emacswiki.org) Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-239-98.hispeed.ch [217.162.239.98]) by smtp.swissonline.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6/SMTPSOL/AWF/2002040101) with ESMTP id g8AICcF09809 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:12:39 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17opXY-0000EN-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:08 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i In-Reply-To: <87sn0ity6h.fsf@sachac.linuxboxen.org> (Sacha Chua's message of "Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:45:26 +0800") Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.90 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7816 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7816 Sacha Chua writes: >> People like me would like a simple buffer where we can use up and down >> and RET to select a menu entry. This can be done in Lisp and works >> for me. > > tmm does that, doesn't it? Or, well, it uses the history mechanism, > and you can pageup to get to the completion buffer... I dunno wether it does. I just tried it and indeed it seems to go "up" in the menu. But I find it confusing. It was so confusing, in fact, that I understood it only after you told me. :) Part of this problem is perhaps the multi-column display, and the lack of a "selection" in the buffer. All the activity is in the minibuffer. >> Other people would like to see "real" menus in the console, but that >> requires messing with the C code. The basic stuff is already there in > > I can start studying ncurses and the Emacs C code if people feel > that this is important enough. =) I think Mario Lang already has a bunch of mails talking about the basics of this. Perhaps he can give you some more information. > What would an ideal buffer-based menu be for you? Simple buffer, up > and down and ret, ability to go up to the parent menu Yes > tab Hm, how would that work, as "next"? I would not care about that (but I would expect there to be a textmenu-mode-map I could change). > mouse clicks Not really -- if I expected that, I could have used the real menu. Alex.