From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francesco Potorti` Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TODO additions Date: 27 Nov 2002 16:13:41 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87bs4bgi56.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> References: <200210291902.g9TJ2AY18220@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038410590 27729 80.91.224.249 (27 Nov 2002 15:23:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18H3wI-0006om-00 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:17:22 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18H42w-0006mj-00 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:24:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18H3tU-0004Ch-00; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:14:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18H3sw-0003qY-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:13:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18H3sr-0003WM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:13:52 -0500 Original-Received: from pot.cnuce.cnr.it ([146.48.83.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18H3sq-0003SM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:13:49 -0500 Original-Received: from pot by pot.cnuce.cnr.it with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18H3sj-0000Od-00; Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:13:41 +0100 Original-To: Dave Love In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.92 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9710 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9710 Dave Love writes: >It would also be worth discarding configurations for systems that >you're confident aren't running now Then I suggest dropping support for Motorola Delta 147. It is sad, because I wrote src/m/delta.h and that was my first work on Emacs :-( But the box is very old now, and since the fastest processor on them that I know of was a 25MHz Motorola 68040, I don't think that anyone ever tried to compile and run Emacs 20 on them. Emacs 19 was already a really big program for that box. In fact, the last Emacs version reported to work is 19.26. So I suggest removing src/m/delta.h and the following from etc/MACHINES: ================ Motorola Delta 147 (m68k-motorola-sysv) The EMacs 19.26 pretest was reported to work. Motorola Delta boxes running System V/68 release 3. Tested on 147 board with SVR3V7, no X and gcc. Tested on 167 board with SVR3V7, no X, cc, gnucc and gcc. Reports say it works with X too. The installation script chooses the compiler itself. gnucc is preferred. ================ About the Delta 187, which had a Motorola risc processor named something like 88010, I do not know if it is equally obsolete (never used one of those boxes). Here is the relative entry in etc/MACHINES: ================ Motorola Delta 187 (m88k-motorola-sysv, m88k-motorola-sysvr4, or m88k-motorola-m88kbcs) The 19.26 pretest was reported to run on SVR3. However, if you use --with-x-toolkit on svr3, you will have problems compiling some files because time.h and sys/time.h get included twice. One fix is to edit those files to protect against multiple inclusion. As of version 19.13, Emacs was reported to run under SYSVr3 and SYSVr4. ================