From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation for "Clone Buffers" (corrected version) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:05:54 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87brmxjmp9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87ekru8z8v.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1079421003 15537 80.91.224.253 (16 Mar 2004 07:10:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 16 08:09:57 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B38i5-0001df-00 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:09:57 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B38i5-0000de-00 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:09:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B38gU-0007J9-Ct for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:08:18 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B38gF-0007Ga-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:08:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B38fj-0006wR-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.33.219.4] (helo=spork.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B38fj-0006w0-DO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:07:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-32-155-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.32.155]) by spork.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A434E11DDB5; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:07:24 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "15 Mar 2004 08:52:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20522 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20522 Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Juri Linkov >> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:18:08 +0200 >> Making a separate manual is reasonable only for a big Emacs package >> like Ediff, Eshell, Gnus, or other 30 packages currently having a >> separate Info manual. However, placing smaller Emacs features into >> a separate manual is very inconvenient for users, because when they >> are trying for find a needed Emacs feature by searching the Emacs >> manual or by looking its index they might miss them. > > We could add a feature that would look in those other manuals as > well. In fact, it would be a good idea even now, as packages like > Eshell and Gnus are parts of Emacs, so there's no need to force the > user to know how we subdivide the Emacs docs. It would be very good to make a composite index from all Emacs manuals. It could be implemented as a separate Info file with references to nodes of other manuals. Another good thing that could be implemented in Emacs is the --apropos feature of the standalone Info browser. Seems it's what people need very much, because they often place an index of an Info file into dir buffer. The worst case I know is the libc.info which places into dir buffer its own huge index with 1700 entries! It's very inconvenient for users: it takes too much time to display this dir buffer and to browse it. If there was a feature for looking up an entry in all indices then dir would contain only references to Top nodes of every Info manual. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/