From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:53:59 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87bpgbgbpk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4B633B7C.8030700@gmx.de> <87aavwrw0r.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264845280 21766 80.91.229.12 (30 Jan 2010 09:54:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:54:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 30 10:54:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NbA2E-0005co-JR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:54:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50543 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NbA2E-0006jg-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:54:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NbA27-0006jb-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36490 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NbA26-0006jL-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:54:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NbA25-0004fu-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:54:26 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:43597) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NbA24-0004fW-Qy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:54:25 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NbA20-0005UT-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:54:20 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c1f67.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.31.103]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:54:20 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c1f67.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:54:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c1f67.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/xRGCj4NEoB5rbV0pZbpW7YHpps= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120677 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > grischka writes: > > > But as is, emacs comes with an implicit structural clause to its > > license, as in "[You may convey a work based on the Program, ...] > > BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO PREVENT THAT." > > That's simply not true. There have historically been a large number > of editors based on Emacs code, some of which are in active > development (of course XEmacs is an example, and many wilder > alternatives have existed: pymacs, perlmacs). Maybe the point was that it is not trivial to get home-brewn extensions back into Emacs upstream. In particular, if they have been brewed in somebody else's home... > I can say to those who say "we can rebuild Emacs using third-party > libraries and it would be more maintainable and flexible" that XEmacs > has tried that several times for different areas of functionality, and > for one reason or another the code has always come back out again. Thanks for that data point. > As for browsing 1GB (well, for Emacs it would be 256MB, I guess?) most-positive-fixnum => 536870911 > log files, there's nothing like (X)Emacs! less is better, actually. I need my virtual memory for other things than decorated log files. -- David Kastrup