From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Put C-h N (news) in org-mode Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:52:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87bohnilw6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <873930nts3.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346659288 10552 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2012 08:01:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 08:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "T.V. Raman" , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 03 10:01:29 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T8Rb6-0006ru-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 10:01:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8Rb3-0006zx-MR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8Raw-0006zq-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8Rar-00015g-6H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:50619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T8Raq-00014n-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:01:13 -0400 Original-Received: by wgbdt14 with SMTP id dt14so3254667wgb.30 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=mSLwMSyW/ek2eB7wkFLDnrApDGP36tvhu17OsJrhk8A=; b=X+vx+OYtkPLn73w3lwus0L9z6jrmAUZDYdKmWawMs9tIAigiWx2UHjF5moMvv1P294 GlzxOgdXXdnd0I4jJs/NoeM6tTt46RSpLZ5OIm1oRemoJHgIYfSa39yDd/f+DrMpysLp 6gKy5V1dW6cUgRlSiPy1oM7ogSpd5dVCo8rqtucGl0lMLzpMhfNz961gLPHrj1ny7iL/ Ya9AfifVKpTk/ruIAZO5rVgYqBsdaDyU4nq22zDcaqcFwvfOh+j9SFbetbLiJyEO/pS7 at/aAziIWnzOM6wHgjABNzxo4ERO3ONKKMlzZQsLHzoi64vSuhs0RtmIzy4ZmHhdIFBu 7vDw== Original-Received: by 10.180.91.1 with SMTP id ca1mr14713404wib.8.1346659272227; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm17840810wib.2.2012.09.03.01.01.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E289E89A2; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:52:09 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <873930nts3.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:20:36 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152962 Archived-At: Hi Stefan, as Jambunathan says, the main advantage would be to "cycle" through various displays more easily. To test this: C-h N M-x orgstruct-mode RET then TAB several times on a headline. If you want to test "global cycling", simply M-x org-mode RET and try S-TAB. Another not-so-small advantage is to let developers use the files (especially TODO/PROBLEMS) as Org TODO lists -- or to import tasks from these files into their Org TODO list. C-c @ on a headline will copy it, then C-y anywhere in an Org file will yank it. The change boils down to better formatting NEWS/TODO/PROBLEMS by having one-line headlines, which is already an improvement over the current NEWS/TODO/PROBLEMS IMHO. I will send a patch when I find time today. Thanks, -- Bastien