From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: button-buffer-map should inherit from special-mode-map Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:10 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: <87bobdsand.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5ehsimf.fsf@gnu.org> <64BBBA8150564874B08184FC5A733196@us.oracle.com> <87mwuxse47.fsf@gnu.org> <8FD33424BFE2446D8072FC1798D0021B@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361476656 13933 80.91.229.3 (21 Feb 2013 19:57:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:57:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 20:57:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cHG-00059V-KZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:57:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cGw-0007nJ-C4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57037) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cGs-0007mS-JS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cGl-0004bF-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cGl-0004b6-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:57:27 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8cH0-0004uu-QT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:57:42 +0100 Original-Received: from 74.113.160.197 ([74.113.160.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:57:42 +0100 Original-Received: from sds by 74.113.160.197 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:57:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.113.160.197 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:nz2TTjQDV7Z4hOeW97rCQt0iBJI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157246 Archived-At: > * Drew Adams [2013-02-21 11:26:36 -0800]: > > Your logic is sound: N => S and B => N, therefore B => S: > > 1. Assume: non-self-insert buffer implies s-m-map is appropriate. > > 2. Assume: b-b-map implies non-self-insert buffer. > > 3. Therefore, any map that inherits from b-b-m should also inherit from s-m-map. > > The logic is fine. What I reject are the assertions, #1 and #2. The vehemence of your objection is stunning. I am no longer arguing in favor of my proposal, but out of curiosity: 1. can you give an example of a non-self-insert buffer where any of the special-mode-map bindings are not appropriate? 2. can you give an example of a button-buffer-map usage in a self-insert buffer? PS. my practical rationale was that I bound a key in special-mode-map and was surprised that the binding was not present in *Buffer List*. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://dhimmi.com http://memri.org http://ffii.org http://pmw.org.il http://thereligionofpeace.com http://jihadwatch.org Our business is run on trust. We trust you will pay in advance.