From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename `eww' to `web' Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 08:57:07 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87bo6mjv4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <8738s087wj.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372683617 29936 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2013 13:00:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:00:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 01 15:00:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtdiK-0000he-UV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtdiK-0001Rn-Kq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47723) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtdiC-0001OW-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:00:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Utdi9-0000Oh-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Utdi9-0000Mo-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Utdi7-0000YO-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:00:03 +0200 Original-Received: from pool-72-93-34-251.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.34.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:00:03 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by pool-72-93-34-251.bstnma.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:00:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-93-34-251.bstnma.east.verizon.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8DOs7Yvt0Y08cM+lV9fo5cKUX5s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161409 Archived-At: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:40:52 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> Web browsing may be important enough to justify a toolbar icon. RS> But the command name should be natural too. Ideally a command RS> should have the name you would guess it has (if you didn't know). If the goal is to improve usability, forget command names. The user wants to open a URL. Make a menubar entry File->Open URL. That will take care of most new users' needs. Maybe give it a toolbar icon, but that's IMHO much less useful. Then make `C-x C-f' open a web browser (through `browse-url' or whatever) by default. Right now there are ways to open the contents of the URL as a file, which will be disabled by this change, but IMHO that's the way to improve usability. Alternatively, reserve `C-x C-u' or something like that for web browsing specifically. But I really think piggybacking on the familiar `C-x C-f' sequence is the right way. Ted