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From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 14:13:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bnn68jdr.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwv1to2q3v7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

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>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> No, I mean the thing that visually replaces α with an actual
>> α character (and converts it back when you save).

   > Did I write the above?  Sorry, the first α should have been "\alpha".
   > And I was just referring to the X-Symbol feature:

   > AFAIK, one of one of X-Symbol's features is to shows you "nice symbols
   > and such", such as → ⊢ α, in place of the corresponding TeX code (such
   > as \to, \vdash, \alpha).  It does it in a way which is fairly intrusive,
   > replacing the \to, \vdash, \alpha text itself in the buffer (and
   > replacing it back when saving).

   > And I was pointing out that nowadays it would be a lot more natural to
   > do that via prettify-symbols-mode which would be more efficient and
   > wouldn't requiring changing the buffer's content (so, no risk of
   > messing up the file's content either).

You are right, also I find the symbols provided my the functionality you
mentioned quite ugly compared to the one presented by x-symbol, a bit
like comparing a math documented generated by (La)TeX or say by an IBM
from then seventies.....



   > I know that, but what does it have to do with X-Symbol?

When x-symbol was introduced a bit more than 20 years ago it was
revolutionary.

   > More to the point: Emacs's built-in LaTeX mode already displays those
   > above "_k" and "^l" as sub- and superscripts (and has been doing it for
   > many years now).

   > So, what did X-Symbol do with super/subscript that isn't covered by this?


Well it does not display the ugly _ (while in x-symbols the _ or ^ are
omitted when the indices are displayed)[1]

Another important feature, which I have not seen so far by other
packages concerns: Graphics! Pdf, jpg gif

For example 
if you have 
\includegraphics{function.jpg}
in your latex file, then 
x-symbol with represents graphic file inline (in the same buffer) via
imagemagick

Uwe 

Footnotes:
[1]  and the functionality you describe does not work unfortunately in
     Xemacs, which is irrelevant for this list, but worth to mention.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-14 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-11  9:21 Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11  9:43 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 12:23   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-11 12:51     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 16:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:12         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 18:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:45         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 18:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 19:54           ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 20:53             ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 21:49             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12  0:57               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12 10:54                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-12  0:33           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12  3:21             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 11:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-11 12:42   ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 12:57     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 11:53 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 11:57   ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 12:36     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 13:48       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 14:27       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-11 15:59         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 16:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 17:01         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-11 18:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 19:24             ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 20:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 20:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-12 15:44                 ` John Mastro
2014-12-12 16:01                   ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-12 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-14 12:11                       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-12-14 19:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-14 23:29                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 13:10                           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-12-15 17:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-12 19:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-11 21:11               ` Rasmus
2014-12-11 17:09         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12  0:21           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-12  3:19             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12 10:57             ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-12 13:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 14:06                 ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-12 16:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14 14:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-14 20:48                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-14 23:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15  2:04                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-15  9:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-11 18:55       ` Achim Gratz
2014-12-11 19:28         ` Steinar Bang
2014-12-11 20:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12  9:06             ` vc-region-authors (or some such) Sebastien Vauban
2014-12-12 14:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 16:13                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 15:47 ` Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 17:02   ` Sergey Organov
2014-12-11 18:36   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-11 19:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 16:41     ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-12 17:45       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-13 12:46         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-13 13:41           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-14  9:07             ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-14 10:04               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-14 14:01                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-11 19:25 ` Karl Fogel
2014-12-11 19:50 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-12 15:42 ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 16:15   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-12 17:16     ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 17:43       ` David Kastrup
2014-12-12 19:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 20:54           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 21:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13  9:30               ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-13  9:42                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-13 10:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-13 10:45                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-13 11:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-13 13:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13 15:21                   ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-14  4:06                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-14 13:13                       ` Uwe Brauer [this message]
2014-12-14 13:27                         ` David Kastrup
2014-12-15 17:25                           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-15  4:38                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15  9:14                           ` David Kastrup
2014-12-15 17:34                           ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-17 21:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 20:52         ` Uwe Brauer
2014-12-12 17:41     ` Multiple independent projects per directory Eric S. Raymond
2014-12-12 18:07   ` Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Thien-Thi Nguyen

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