From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 01:47:19 +0900 Message-ID: <87bnmyclpk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvcacs7k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419094073 6491 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2014 16:47:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , David Kastrup , Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 17:47:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2NBx-0003WZ-1k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:47:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2NBw-0003un-7q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:47:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53208) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2NBn-0003s4-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:47:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2NBh-0004LX-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:47:35 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:41795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2NBa-0004Ix-JP; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:47:22 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BACE1C391D; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 01:47:20 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 062ED1A2CFC; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 01:47:19 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180386 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > I think with HTML5 you do not need any package any longer. You just > write it in HTML5/EcmaScript. (I do these things very often now.) If you say so, but a quick look at the current W3C recommendation for HTML5 doesn't reveal anything like standard AJAX events, just the now-ancient ones like onclick and so on. I don't think HTML5 has really changed anything in this respect: if you can do it with HTML5 you can do it with HTML4. It's possible that adding a few lines of Ecmascript per link would do the trick, but that sounds ugly to say the least. And scripts, being dynamic and possibly interacting with the network, require error-handling to be robust. > On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > If you want to maintain multiple back ends, that could get rather > > messy if you need to keep it AJAX-compatible. > > You can handle that very easily. Just write the normal HTML code By "multiple backends" I mean media types like PDF and Info, not different browsers.