From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:32:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87bnc5cnvk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> <834mhxqtn1.fsf@gnu.org> <561A96E2.2070407@cumego.com> <83zizppbrh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444584763 9507 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 17:32:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Przemys=C5=82aw?= Wojnowski , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 19:32:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKUD-00015T-Gm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:32:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKUC-00057W-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKTv-000577-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKTu-00078m-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKTp-000775-5j; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34223 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlKTo-0006gI-GU; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A269E13B5; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:32:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83zizppbrh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:15:30 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191249 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski >> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:05:38 +0200 >>=20 >> W dniu 11.10.2015 o 18:04, Eli Zaretskii pisze: >> [...] >> > >> > I think you forgot profiling. >>=20 >> I don't know you and, most probably, we're in different cultures, but if= that >> was a sarcasm > > It wasn't. AFAIR, a profiler is indeed an important part of at least > one popular Jave IDE. Associating the output of gprof and gcov (and perf) with the corresponding sources (possibly also selecting traced areas) and allowing editing based on the results would certainly fit what developers have to do. Leafing through a profiled call graph while displaying the corresponding source files in a parallel window: clear IDE functionality. Not sure why that would be sarcastic. --=20 David Kastrup