From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The poor state of documentation of pcase like things. Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87bn92njfa.fsf@web.de> References: <20151216202605.GA3752@acm.fritz.box> <877fk1nnk0.fsf@web.de> <8760zlue3j.fsf@gmail.com> <87vb7kajgv.fsf@web.de> <83y4c9ag06.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn95m9eg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5686CDFB.2010105@dancol.org> <83fuygcs5g.fsf@gnu.org> <56886E32.70305@yandex.ru> <83si2f9ve4.fsf@gnu.org> <56889EC3.3040108@yandex.ru> <877fjrkpdf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892334.4000106@yandex.ru> <8760zakb7q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56892BDA.6060103@dancol.org> <871t9yk98g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <568936F0.3060505@yandex.ru> <87wprqitj5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56893C8C.3060200@yandex.ru> <87oad2irtd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451876104 655 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2016 02:55:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 02:55:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 03:54:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvIO-0007xu-Ix for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:54:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43634 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvIN-00058j-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:54:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvIC-00058d-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:54:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvI9-00039Q-Lp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:54:44 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvI9-00039K-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 21:54:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFvI8-0007jr-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:54:40 +0100 Original-Received: from ip-90-186-0-84.web.vodafone.de ([90.186.0.84]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:54:40 +0100 Original-Received: from michael_heerdegen by ip-90-186-0-84.web.vodafone.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:54:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-90-186-0-84.web.vodafone.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:INtLgSb/Of5nUaEmgIFtjFo3OBo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197563 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > However, it would seem to indicate that the proponents of pcase do not > want to see their actions discussed, so I'm not going to respond to this > thread anymore either way. It would appear that we are on course > replacing consensual agreed-upon action with battling commits and > stifling speech. I've got a very similar impression from "your" side. Maybe we should all read a book about how to manage such discussions. This was not fun. Michael.