From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wording of the Elisp manuals Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:22:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87bmw7ymyc.fsf@web.de> References: <83fd1db0-7362-6117-c5cd-715398c0dea4@gmail.com> <20161207220447.GA4503@acm.fritz.box> <20161208201517.GB3120@acm.fritz.box> <20161209190747.GC2203@acm.fritz.box> <5a70902f-882e-f616-74b2-df6eb81fc70c@yandex.ru> <20161211101715.GA14084@acm.fritz.box> <51c0554f-40d0-37a5-b134-17058343aa3f@yandex.ru> <877a8d5a-ee08-29a1-8c7e-6cc8a82dfc83@gmail.com> <4ded3b07-18ab-4864-b72d-f217a86c123d@default> <295c7d25-444d-2bf5-b649-e9eafec3bd2d@gmail.com> <08a5c56e-e942-4608-aaa9-01aa437ee438@default> <8737hn40r3.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1482225762 15615 195.159.176.226 (20 Dec 2016 09:22:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:22:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 20 10:22:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGd2-0002Yc-Of for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:22:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGd3-0000Xx-Pw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:22:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46454) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGcw-0000V1-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:22:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGct-0006vY-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:22:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:60284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGct-0006v5-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([109.43.1.168]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MduMb-1bwM1T0tZ7-00Phmg; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:22:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8737hn40r3.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2016 05:50:56 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ugcjWnHyM3FUyuIcv99lBdPINMqdDxkMIHopUlAtZL2/EhIO5iS tP/s7odiv816JBgcUHa5S/9ZcB6kasknEqGSBWgSY8+gzdA0wpb3Apni7ZiNP7a8JAZG0Mn jK9VrpipDpfEKtJT6HuNXlzJjIkjRx7lqBqdYcMwPKb0itGQQC4Az51e6Mwt9xAuaEHfU66 ogAQ67/N7F86gRSjuuptA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:eLJ/GcePZW4=:VowFsUtvQYhrQV5EB/WjRi 7cwaMOlOFgY1n2/MApsZBNd7Yk7fg+JlLnKnjoLBaWq8z/HXpmESIRfRDQ/EBnacDXIJr0XXz owY1QH9FfJG5FAUhsAhYLXtbjcUALaVlqzlPuma5yzg2x62Iymu1EcE2GV0DZB9EKnQ29GRe+ am8DBr2TeBXBo2w5WKWPxza/nwKYRIrG28wlrMCi36H129hXpfbPram/wd8Y4+HAiY/uhQHAR snTo+Tf6dZRnXRCPltrcoaT9KlDnnNP7YiwxPhionmbJHpjmi3P48PTb3dBrDRgqRa9/IGx9A 5TpQjORzAkvsYSDNudPAQj6qOWdOk3RUmlzmJJYEpVUrjNYJeCYbCWm5PZCRh9HPXAyzMEuvS QQJhbfuZV3FxhUDhsmlA6w1XEVhglxbYgSSFCxQtMAQ9tlygpUO8ymQZBNylE8AERvzDMKc0e xsCq3gKuVI1QslOBoiPW1eRhI6GE7BF+nipHChCD/t2JGf+p8yRwbNqunhjBBQPQH+VevN7XL xUz1aSX68aVnyOBquNJyJszD0MpD105bfCNXpJzX1Vp55DfdH7spJF0Px+uo1CzYAIT4K7C/e x0hd101Cjl0Z4lS9RfM9grb9TpdMdRFyAJncJFcIYvWR+0oF5dSms35ObpVYTfQh+NvcG4jJ3 A+D5j9JOXf1vlMRdaDpT6Cic5gIAjVeA1K7VDU5n7mfwpKPg2D/dxoolQTH/cuJ8FOUEp+F91 QStt9TRux9GlBOlAVy3qldtYs9djGFp5ZMlesClYtbUgJFqZY7fs/6KA7R89Us3Rdp5JiF9C X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.72.192.78 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210657 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: > Wouldn't it be a good idea to state clearly somewhere that ELisp Intro > is not only about introduction to programming, but also about > introdcution to Emacs as the Elisp environment? Do we expect that an more or less experienced programmer (who probably already has a basic understanding of Lisp) needs to read the Elisp Intro? I would OTOH not be good if we say that reading the Intro is mandatory, but everything is also covered by the manual. Michael.