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[100.33.98.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i14sm9457598qke.102.2019.11.18.15.40.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Nov 2019 15:40:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:56:39 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242406 Archived-At: >>>>> "PEM" == Perry E Metzger writes: PEM> Speaking more generally than just Debbugs... Yes, I've seen your talks, and am happy to see an enthused bearer of the torch. My criticism is that speaking in generalities as you do above is unproductive. I think if you actually got down to the business of making the changes you propose (Rust conversion, first-class HTML rendering, Slack integration, etc.), you would quickly pare your wishlist down to more incremental outcomes. A prima fascie glance would suggest emacs's mindshare has been on the wane for years. But for those in-the-know, the editor remains the most efficient means of getting things done. Its continued success doesn't require the most young developers, just the most sensible ones.