From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Cc: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>, "John Wiegley" <johnw@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:40:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87blt8eot9.fsf@dick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:56:39 -0500")
>>>>> "PEM" == Perry E Metzger <perry@piermont.com> writes:
PEM> Speaking more generally than just Debbugs...
Yes, I've seen your talks, and am happy to see an enthused bearer of the
torch.
My criticism is that speaking in generalities as you do above is
unproductive. I think if you actually got down to the business of making the
changes you propose (Rust conversion, first-class HTML rendering, Slack
integration, etc.), you would quickly pare your wishlist down to more incremental outcomes.
A prima fascie glance would suggest emacs's mindshare has been on the wane for
years. But for those in-the-know, the editor remains the most efficient means of
getting things done. Its continued success doesn't require the most young
developers, just the most sensible ones.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-18 23:40 UTC|newest]
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2019-11-17 11:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-17 18:27 ` Andreas Schwab
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2019-11-17 18:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2020-01-01 10:48 ` VanL
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2020-01-22 12:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-17 21:33 ` João Távora
2019-11-17 22:05 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-11-17 22:19 ` Amin Bandali
2019-11-17 22:56 ` João Távora
2019-11-18 7:38 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 8:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-18 10:10 ` Andreas Schwab
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2019-11-17 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2019-11-17 20:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-18 11:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2019-11-18 11:36 ` João Távora
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2019-11-17 20:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 3:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 14:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2019-11-18 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 1:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19 6:08 ` Richard Stallman
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2019-11-20 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-21 12:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-17 20:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-19 6:08 ` Richard Stallman
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2019-11-18 16:22 ` Perry E. Metzger
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2019-11-20 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 12:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2019-11-20 23:53 ` Perry E. Metzger
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2019-11-17 19:36 ` "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:] dick.r.chiang
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