From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 21:12:35 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87bli9obzg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <32292E31-1603-4EF9-B772-EBD378C32F76@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35809"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Gregory Heytings , Yuan Fu To: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 20:21:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHWcp-0009CJ-4R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 20:21:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52652 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHWco-0006xT-6B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHWbt-0005dU-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:46509) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHWbr-0000Zl-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BF83100002; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Gregory Heytings via's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 2020 14:38:22 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.231; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/13 14:20:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255552 Archived-At: > It should not just be "shorter", it should be *really* short. I've just > read it again, for a new user it is almost useless. I think the following > two keybindings would suffice: "C-x 1" and "C-g". Instead of "C-g", it's easier to type the standard ESC key: (when window-system (define-key global-map [escape] 'keyboard-escape-quit)) I don't suggest to enable this by default, but this could be added to one of profiles.