From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:24:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87blhalf0r.fsf@logand.com> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvdf6kf.fsf@gnu.org> <20201002161307.GK3520@protected.rcdrun.com> <83o8lkeh3o.fsf@gnu.org> <20201002163308.GM3520@protected.rcdrun.com> <83eemfepnq.fsf@gnu.org> <831riefnwq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40744"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 09:26:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kR9HK-000AUs-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:26:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kR9HJ-0005xb-7E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kR9GI-0005W1-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:25:50 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:42882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kR9GF-0003Ic-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 03:25:49 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6121F19F131; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 09:24:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <831riefnwq.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/10 03:24:39 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257304 Archived-At: On Sun 04 Oct 2020 at 10:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Richard Stallman >> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2020 23:45:20 -0400 >> >> > We have "M-x eww" to go to Wiktionary directly. >> >> Does using eww imply visiting a web site over the net? > > Yes, if the URL is HTTP/HTTPS/FTP. No, if the URL is file. Example: cat "hi there" > /tmp/a.html eww file:///tmp/a.html >> My point is that this should work even if you don't have >> a network connection, provided you have a local copy >> of Wiktionary. > > EWW is not the solution for that use case. It is not obvious to me why. For example, I've been using eww with off-line Common Lisp HyperSpec and it works well. A key bound to hyperspec-lookup function will simply open relevant local html file. A dictionary could work like that too. Could you please describe the problems, why eww is not the solution for that use case?