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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263921 Archived-At: Thibaut Verron writes: >> - I wouldn't find it outlandish for Magit to do something similar to >> rg.el: provide a function (say magit-enable-default-bindings) that >> users can call in their init file to easily setup some bindings under >> a prefix (that would default to C-c g). > > So to be clear, we would ask hundreds/thousands/whatever of users to > add a change to their init file and possibly change a binding they use > daily, in order to either make room for, or override a binding they > mostly never asked for? I've used Magit daily for years, and I call magit-status through C-x g dozens of times an hour. It is very much ingrained in my muscle memory, and it would take me a lot of frustrating misinputs to retrain myself to use another binding. In the grand scheme of things though, and for the sake of more consistent conventions across the package ecosystem, I wouldn't fault Emacs maintainers for reclaiming a binding that, IMO, is their prerogative to make use of, so long as whatever C-x g ends up being bound to makes some sort of sense and/or is useful.