From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:47:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87blcdjuce.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1laomak.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgzxlgvo.fsf@gnus.org> <83im6lxwnt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9326"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 16:48:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDqyb-0002K6-3i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:48:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60174 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDqya-0005aF-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:48:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDqxc-00053H-VO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:47:52 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:54878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDqxb-0008V0-B5; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:47:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DoKaRZLA+2/Kd3qjOpc1yD1Q+ice1fgvP1KPoylrMuo=; b=jgFqg2D9yLbS4ebk71ywTf6Gtc 0QS0kRgRefu6ia62LUoTdJNwnwQcoa0m5GR3+5HuD/yo19wzIfC4J1z/PnMc6RlHLsg8IleZldiIZ JWSja5C1m0uG77zBuC96YfW95L+5adm1LcNhJ7MHCIuHa5fgagbHrnI9CjGSNGOCUnvU=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDqxW-0001hJ-VZ; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:47:49 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEUhHB0oIyNYSEKT dmzjwrX////3c5ssAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UCFQ8sElaOiYcAAAFFSURBVDjL7ZPh bcQwCIXNTQB0gfDcAXomG8T7z1Sw3bu0jdRK/VtOFyl8BgyPlHJlwuXaSMofTAFI2DdQ3f0SqAzj XyT/tx+ML710OfdYgXTnP8LOnEiWJlyIP503WDxSrdOarNOCIOf9mWmYxA3plJM/VDeOCLV0LL/O 3RmXUqOP4jRyR4DyAEyrUeJ05i+upYZIJLMBEpjFKlbPEmChBVQRx3MZ3SoQd5gg8uDFsPfevakA PCOyYByrPS2BzlneMi2g+wCe5SdQgjzB0eS2gJDlxzEzRa54m7PPHgBf/n4sMMYaAfsJTCGjmczU H2a2FA5Qqz/Bm+W1hh9fQCqQSg/wqNE3HaCMtmtbId59yxnLECmLj0aOBm+sdcgrCWq8x6c+RN1C A1iqB7Qo0kAcJ2L+CVA4tikmu+/Nt839db/fQ2boO+f/RiO2cVKPAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0 ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTIxVDE1OjQ0OjE3KzAwOjAwJUu6GAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0w Mi0yMVQxNTo0NDoxNyswMDowMFQWAqQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Console's _Herself_: "She Saw" In-Reply-To: <83im6lxwnt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:33:58 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265397 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> never seems to actually do anything? Are there cases where doing that >> would do anything useful? > > Careful: the completion predicate is not just for M-x, it is also for > "C-h x" and other commands that complete on functions and commands. Hm... that's certainly a wrinkle here. On the other hand, `C-h f digit-argument' would work as always. The four commands under discussion here (see the bug report) all have in common that nobody would actually `M-x' them, because they do nothing if you do that. (I think? I'm not 100% sure about `digit-argument'.) So they're commands because they're bound to keys only. So I'm leaning towards being fine with `C-h x ignorTAB' not expanding to `ignore'. Probably. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no