From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:53:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87blaowtll.fsf@posteo.net> References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <78741fe6-2612-d7c9-2bc4-0b68ea7fa51a@yandex.ru> <76a4d0e2-117b-165d-d56e-5bc2f504b50c@yandex.ru> <87blapln0r.fsf@posteo.net> <37bd2e96-ce04-eb6d-24da-fdd7ea427e61@yandex.ru> <87im4wx2ct.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19057"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 08 19:56:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYtg-0004sB-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:56:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYtf-0001iW-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYqn-0007dV-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:53883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUYqg-0005fK-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32425240101 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:53:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1617904424; bh=R7JAK7VxFtX6SyVCsWbb1LkLcP3SjgNjGQFJHyDZnjE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=FaD3JeZc4y1jHpRxosUaLUrvZIWPiL5Dd1e7LhwPI0S8Dmt2RITKdq5HN0O7/ENaH BNGqa2O4Xd2uIy94TYBFH2n+0Dz/TsNrvpwleue3SzqwDUfvxz+a7KIvgNxycKYaw/ AaI1hZ64voMr+5TtTFoO5TwHXLmU1a8kC6y4XCOEeAcrdZF9ChS4IAjfRuMuzLjHiH J+guX+PoYkW7iiLo5GsixDc6JHLyFVAV7uwLnZTO7JyrPysRW2Rokl6+NeQyfI8R/y syuauTT0cWe8/jlGsRY+oT/q7am2YpPJmrZHG5CvMmozoALdOGNf8rsvQhtOGVfub+ x88T0qxtcyY1g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4FGTQb0mYvz9rxD; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:53:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Thu, 08 Apr 2021 09:40:12 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267641 Archived-At: "T.V Raman" writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > > > In the spirit of exerimentation I'd second what Stefan suggested, > > Step 1: Create a selection oriented equivalent of completing-read To clarify, this already exists with Helm, Ivy, etc. I'm working on a framework that is primarily centred around selection. > 2. See how that works out -- Yes, and this will probably take a few attempts to get right too. I hope there will be interest to discuss different approaches on this list. > 3. Then, compare it with completing-read -- and see if we can derive a > master composite function that handles both use-cases well. This might be possible, but I'm sceptical. -- Philip K.