From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:58:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87blak0w9h.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87o8ls1vvq.fsf@posteo.net> <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31755"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 12 09:59:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVrUB-00087l-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:59:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVrUA-0005iS-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 03:59:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVrT5-00058q-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 03:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:38070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVrT3-0001s6-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 03:58:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wZtLnKobU+29osrDSdpKnJ2DwrModI5RxXdNS/Hr0H8=; b=ampnN/eX3nXCT7gMhp0+D245NY NR6wbOqsp1tL1pJq9/KyHeCv3J8dCeer9CswV+xJotcL6vhDu5GKZ0vvtGifYPO2WWTjOZiTCW5St 4bdsuPIhq/EVNRtSkwww05Q66OJ4b2BlYcK7OMK2PGh+k2Bp7hzBvVizPaDE+Ezf6+VM=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVrSs-0002wf-Gk; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:58:40 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEXYzMe9q7NsWpj/ //90x6HUAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UEDAc1Id4c/YQAAAGeSURBVCjPRZFBbtswEEX/ GKIXXlEAWbRet4BzCzOwDCQrEuAspHUcWDpFcgO7iBfZKYBcWHPKjtQgnQ35MJ+f5B+sn/IWQPZJ BMY5q4AWneAEuAkctKOa75jrH2yKaU8KWps7xC+4kwkWMyy78T+s5DbBcoa1XL8gr2Q+My0Ul3Kj TzBxIQN/yorE8ucjwk73+LETeY3YBRmRLgohoiLZglMj4iPCDFUj48cnPLF23qNzpcL10sglY+eS BJxV9gKUJcsetW9+v97b0t/LGnXL9DKlE6QDXbcI7DhPUX27zElx9qOgyxFmiwPzINjr7ave1Mz9 COItFifDo00jVocMOpnnSy4HNF0GomnSzgzgZ007kpqnM/wDz9a7tjyjqqYA9CetCXjcH9RPgY3R 7x44I3qOnnRiBzW3xkfttD9/tWpurPUFUuA2ZhN7pzIquKV3t+hNUh+3OtKDW7+BFAp/xAbCoKBH +YZj8ag79aH9QAP/UJG+i3xP11jrvPwk6+mtrGFhAF+cKIYmxCIhWxd5fw7VzlW4WZe4PjNb5/8C PI6PrH0LU5oAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDQtMTJUMDc6NTM6MzMrMDA6MDCqru2X AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA0LTEyVDA3OjUzOjMzKzAwOjAw2/NVKwAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Craig Scott s Lobotomy's _The Wire Tapper 55_: "I AM REVOLTING" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 11 Apr 2021 21:19:18 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267943 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > What happened to this? I think we wanted to introduce mode line constructs to ensure a minimum width to elements (like "L13") for those that want that, and somehow have variable pitch fonts that have numbers of unequal width (uncommon as those fonts are). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no