From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch: perform autoloading when docs is missing from autoload object Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:21:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87bl4qt3y3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ee9o3cqj.fsf@gnus.org> <87o88rxpvy.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29179"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 15:22:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaIK-0007PZ-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:22:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39180 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaII-0004Xv-I1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:22:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43676) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaHO-0003Ny-K7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:47462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaHN-0007U5-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:21:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5rSsJ4HbFJ1BMpFTlH8wHlBJs0da28Bh3h7ikqHhgf4=; b=X41P3PY/efSwACjQGica5/1rdq koE1AE4WB1nXmuXUMhMgqVRCN2+0OoUauVREAVNPIoN6+MixNt0kaau+1j3jbmc7s10pIFJc94Av0 7HikhPp/4tzcogxD5DmzN0IA5t0iTDieFDktEFc1A2yopJ1QbWP3WweVywyYvbAkulSM=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRaHH-0003bk-Bz; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:21:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:04:56 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274990 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > I wanted to later switch to just fetch the docs instead of performing > load. Loading docs can be done without evaluating the code. It might be a > better solution anyway? If that's possible, that would be preferable, but as you say: > By the way, I had thoughts about loading the library vs just docs. I reason, > that, if I look at some symbol docs via describe-* functions, I am > probably already using that library/package, or am about to use it, so it > probably is going to be loaded anyway. At least in many cases, not always of > course. It is quite likely that you want to use the library if you've looked up the symbol in a *Help* buffer, so why not, indeed, just load it at that point? If loading the library also helps with some other things -- highlighting `package-symbol's correctly in the doc string, for instance. So I think I'd be fine with adding the proposed functionality. If there are people that don't want this, we can add a user option to switch it off. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no