From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Colin_Baxter_=F0=9F=98=BA?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal scrolling in help Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:24:54 +0000 Message-ID: <87bl1ka2w9.fsf@yandex.com> References: <87y24pj6nd.fsf@yandex.com> <83ilvsmzjg.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6h4mx1m.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23602"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 13 17:26:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mwo9V-0005sK-JC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:26:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwo9R-0008Pk-Lr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwo8Q-0007hp-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::611] (port=45802 helo=forward501o.mail.yandex.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwo8M-0001Qv-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: from myt5-96d8dd611b31.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt5-96d8dd611b31.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c12:5a22:0:640:96d8:dd61]) by forward501o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 627D145C4F63; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:24:56 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c12:128:0:640:aad1:beef]) by myt5-96d8dd611b31.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id vkXXWyQZ3V-OufOckBC; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:24:56 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1639412696; bh=m/KJ6tqEcMYwAwhD5eGUKpcN7yXC8flWe8d45Y6ABoQ=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:References:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Cc; b=lY1blYxpZqdZ7sCXhZA3F3UByPX+scXoPwqaqKsZ+6KcM5SHrl4VorRe896Cs1MxG jf859VTglfrn5Ll6fDdZ6g6nLtQtEDoaMphW02/kM067qqrSWc7hd0vaMeL0xhOMjK ko9t3/78CBoY/S7aqycUABf1/i9ZeFmqv7QfzzTU= Authentication-Results: myt5-96d8dd611b31.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Original-Received: by myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id UkYigXcHjR-OtPOGb03; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:24:55 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Fwd: 2 X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T X-Message-My-Extra-Message: 8-) We are the only ones here =?utf-8?B?8J+YuiDwn5i6IPCfmLo=?= In-Reply-To: <83a6h4mx1m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:52:53 +0200") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::611 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::611; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward501o.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281853 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 14:58:59 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >>=20 >> > From: Colin Baxter =F0=9F=98=BA > Cc: > Date: = Mon, 13 >> Dec 2021 07:39:02 +0000 >> >=20 >> > 1. emacs-27.2 -nw -Q > 2. C-h ? >> >=20 >> > The user is then told to use Space or Del to scroll >> options. This works > in xterm, stterm and urxvt. >> >=20 >> > In emacs-28.0.90 (and emacs-29.0.50) the user is now told to >> use > , to scroll, neither of which work in >> xterm, > stterm or urxvt >> >=20 >> > I am wondering why the scroll advice was changed? >>=20 >> How about providing a patch that adds SPC and DEL to the advice? > I installed a fix on the release branch, please test. Thank you. Tested on emacs-28.0.90 - works - simple but effective! Best wishes.