From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:18:07 +0000 Message-ID: <87bl0ziujk.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87v8zbp5l7.fsf@posteo.net> <87ee5ymhsz.fsf@posteo.net> <87r19xktnz.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27496"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 11:19:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2W39-0006sX-C0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:19:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51874 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2W36-0006rK-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 05:19:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2W2B-0006CW-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 05:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:46845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2W28-0005Ae-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 05:18:14 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD3EE240028 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:18:09 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1640773089; bh=Zf2X3/L7bAQFg6vFqeuseuC7zggzUKd/VDofLDhLBrk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=YyOxDoinkDgrHQB4q5YKkmK3QCkwH/Q/urPfh2Wc27L2P9Lm+vBBUNh/DbTAEt4K8 LhU5gqRGiabX6XLBAkO8wTGibWqFSAQS9nncxtuUJ8VoGucRTzzaqz1kbKTP7fVrWF uNbj7VYeWE9mk5Ucfnro74QmSnKQaffIEkdr0m4EW7pe/mF4ra90vPbywCzOIbcvj5 8S73Ghk0NX88/wu/Ck3zPbeop4jPWgszZccgfwE/HeCcrtCmQhrqA/cH6kwqzWiQob v3tKg0fgawXx2/GNW0r9BB5wwxq0In8YVn8ag9lEjxLS2l1AHvQqAUMCKm+7bKAMT1 ZnTFpU0Z72Vfg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JP6md0PFgz6tmB; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:18:08 +0100 (CET) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:51:04 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283544 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > The first step of it -- operating on a package name, which would very likely > > > point to a repo site that we condemn, would put us into a moral contradiction. > > > However, there's no moral problem in the rest of it. > > > > > > Would you like to implement `package-fetch' so that it always wants > > > a URL as argument? > > > Do you mean to say that there is an issue in just cloning a git > > repository from say GitHub? > > I see various manings for "just cloning a git repository from say > GitHub". I am not sure what issue you're talking about. But I think > we are miscommunicating -- talking about two different things. > > What I'm saying is, package-fetch should not preference specific web > sites not run by us. It should definitely NOT preference github, > because we urge people not to put their things on github. > > So I suggest that its argument should be a URL, and it should get the > package from that URL. Whatever URL the user gives. If the user > specifies a github URL, it would get the package from github. > > But it should never spontaneously choose or suggest or prefer github. Ok, I see. No, there would certainly not be a default inclination towards GitHub. Instead my idea was that a package might specify where to find its repository, and if you enter a package name that has a header like this: ;; VC: https://vcs.host/path/to/repo.git package-fetch would use this. -- Philip Kaludercic