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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284408 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: >> And please don't say they "should" learn Emacs Lisp -- some people may >> find that enjoyable but lack the time, and some others may simply not >> want to at all. Asking people to learn Emacs Lisp to make future >> customizations is simply unacceptable as part of a setup guide for _new_ >> users. > Nobody must or is forced. Indeed, and a setup guide should not force people to learn Lisp either.