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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293752 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 21 Aug 2022 at 06:46PM +02, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Sean Whitton writes: > >> That would also get us another native Wayland backend, and probably one >> that would could more heartily recommend to people. > > That'd be nice -- but do we have any concrete reason to believe that Qt > is going to suck less than Gtk? Everybody has a tendency to think that > something like this must surely be great -- until they start actually > working with it, and then they discover all the things that just doesn't > work (as we found out with Gtk, but only after a few years of actually > working with it). Right. Hopefully someone who already had the background knowledge to implement a Qt build would be able to tell us why or why not. -- Sean Whitton