From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Gabriel <gabriel376@hotmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On improving Bookmarks
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:37:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkp66brj.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR06MB860930928FB323D442DDC26C8B079@SJ0PR06MB8609.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> (Gabriel's message of "Wed, 16 Nov 2022 02:25:20 -0300")
[This is the second part of my reply in this thread. The first
part was posted as part of a parallel reply to Bug #59212 and can
be seen here:
https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-11/msg01053.html
.]
On 16 Nov 2022, Gabriel wrote:
>3) Add Type to bookmark-sort-flag
>
>A simple suggestion to add Type to the choices of
>bookmark-sort-flag.
+1. I'm not sure how often people would actually use it, but if a
column is present, it should be sortable on.
>4) Make R (bookmark-relocate) work for all Types
>
>The R (bookmark-relocate) currently does not seem to work with
>Types
>other than regular "Files" and "Directories". It causes the
>following
>error:
>
>bookmark-relocate: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
>
>Would be nice to make it work for all types. I am not sure what
>would
>be the best way to implement it and the required effort. Perhaps
>similar to how VC handles different backends or similar to how
>currently
>bookmarks handles 'bookmark-handler-type. See also comment from
>2010 in
>bookmark-location. As a simple remediation in case this change
>is not
>added to Bookmarks, Emacs could report a better error message for
>users,
>e.g.: "bookmark-relocate is not supported for type EWW".
I think starting by just improving the error would be great. The
larger effort can be tackled on a case-by-case basis -- it doesn't
have to be all solved all at once.
>5) Ability to open Bookmarks with external applications
>
>Add choice to open bookmarks in Emacs using the default
>bookmark-handler-type or using an external application (e.g. open
>a PDF
>with xdg-open rather than DocView or open an URL with Firefox
>rather
>than EWW). Not sure what would be the best way to implement it,
>though.
That's a very interesting idea. +1 to the concept.
But does Emacs already have a generic mechanism for saying "open
things of type X with program Y"? If so, Bookmark should just
rely on that mechanism, rather than have some Bookmark-specific
mechanism. And if there isn't such a generic mechanism in Emacs,
perhaps it be better to create that than to do something special
for Bookmark.
>6) Add minibuffer completion details to C-x r b (bookmark-jump)
>
>A simple suggestion to add minibuffer completion details to
>bookmark-jump so users can know, for example, the Type and
>Location. It
>could be controlled by defcustom completions-detailed.
Again, +1 to the concept.
>7) Add Tags
>
>A "simple" feature that would make Bookmarks much more powerful.
>In
>simple terms, a list of tags would be saved with each bookmark in
>bookmark-default-file, and could be used for better filtering and
>navigation.
Well... I hesitate on this one. Tagging mechanisms often turn out
to be half-baked solutions to sets of only partially-related
problems. And in the case of bookmarks, we already have a lot of
information we could work with, even without tags:
* The bookmark's name Its path Its type Its creation date The
* front and back context strings
I guess I would ask: have you personally encountered situations
with your bookmarks where tags would have been the best solution?
I.e., is this idea based on directly-experienced need, or is it
speculative?
On 16 Nov 2022, Matthias Meulien replied to Gabriel:
>Let me mention two things I have in my wishlist:
>
>8) Hability to scope bookmarks to Projects.
>
>When setting a bookmark from a buffer attached to a project, I'd
>like to
>have the choice of a bookmark scope: global or current project.
>
>When jumping to a bookmark from a buffer attached to a project,
>I'd then
>expect to have choice from bookmarks with global scope and
>bookmarks
>with scoped to current project.
>
>A project-bookmark-bmenu-list command could be created that
>displays
>bookmarks with global scope and scoped to current project.
>
>I don't know whether one should extend bookmarks with a scope
>property
>or store bookmarks in projects (using .dir-locals.el or a
>dedicated
>file?).
Whew. This would complexify Bookmark considerably -- it starts to
transform into a project management system.
You can already use different bookmark-files for this kind of
scoping, with a little bit of UI overhead (which we could improve,
without having to fundamentally change how Bookmark works).
Aha, you touch on that below!...
>9) Improve support for multiple bookmark files
>
>I first thought 8) wouldn't be a problem if I maintained a
>bookmark file
>in each project. Unfortunately when you press the s key from
>bookmark
>BMenu, the default bookmark file is overwritten with bookmarks
>coming
>from multiple sources...
>
>And when jumping there's no way to select the bookmark source...
Maybe just designing a fix for that -- a better UI flow -- is the
solution to the scoping need?
Best regards,
-Karl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-16 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-16 5:25 On improving Bookmarks Gabriel
2022-11-16 7:23 ` Matthias Meulien
2022-11-16 8:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 17:28 ` bug#59212: " Karl Fogel
2022-11-16 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-16 19:47 ` Karl Fogel
2022-11-16 17:37 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2022-11-17 10:20 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-17 21:17 ` Karl Fogel
2022-11-18 3:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-18 7:58 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-18 7:53 ` Jean Louis
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