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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-29 b44a7ff85dc: Allow 'icon-title-format' to have the value t
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 21:57:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bklooy1e.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230217074148.2E130C1391A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 17 Feb 2023 02:41:47 -0500 (EST)")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>  @defvar icon-title-format
> -This variable specifies how to compute the name for an iconified frame,
> -when you have not explicitly specified the frame title.  This title
> -appears in the icon itself.
> +This variable specifies how to compute the name for an iconified frame
> +when you have not explicitly specified the frame's name via the
> +frame's parameters.  The resulting title appears in the frame's icon
> +itself.  If the value is a string, is should be a mode line construct
> +like that of @code{frame-title-format}.  The value can also be
> +@code{t}, which means to use @code{frame-title-format} instead; this
> +avoids problems with some window managers and desktop environments,
> +where a change in a frame's title (when a frame is iconified) is
> +interpreted as a request to raise the frame and/or give it input
> +focus.  The default is a string identical to the default value of
> +@code{frame-title-format}.
>  @end defvar
>  
>  @defvar multiple-frames
> diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
> index 35063678f58..133c07e56df 100644
> --- a/etc/NEWS
> +++ b/etc/NEWS
> @@ -1202,6 +1202,13 @@ the most recently deleted frame.  With a numerical prefix argument
>  between 1 and 16, where 1 is the most recently deleted frame, undelete
>  the corresponding deleted frame.
>  
> ++++
> +*** The variable 'icon-title-format' can now have the value t.
> +That value means to use 'frame-title-format' for iconified frames.
> +This is useful with some window managers and desktop environments
> +which treat changes in frame's title as requests to raise the frame
> +and/or give it input focus.
> +

"Some window managers and desktop environments" (which means KDE) giving
focus to a window because it changed its title is, definitely, a bug
that will be eventually fixed.

A reason for keeping icon-title-format in sync with frame-title-format
is for not having to also set icon-title-format whenever
frame-title-format is set (because most users will want to retain the
title of a frame when it is iconified.)

Then, we have a problem with terminology: "iconify" is a word that is
rarely used since decades ago, the current term is "minimize", so most
new users will not understand what icon-title-format is about from its
documentation.



       reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <167661970773.22310.13511166994278322415@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20230217074148.2E130C1391A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2023-02-20 20:57   ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2023-02-21 12:13     ` emacs-29 b44a7ff85dc: Allow 'icon-title-format' to have the value t Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 15:02       ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-21 15:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 18:51           ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-21 19:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 19:48               ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-02-22 14:35                 ` Po Lu
2023-02-22 15:22                   ` Óscar Fuentes

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