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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303904 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu >> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 21:42:30 +0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Rewriting the configury is OK, but that still doesn't need >> > ifavailable, AFAIU. For example, we build with HarfBuzz if that is >> > available, but we don't use ifavailable for it. How is this one >> > different? >> >> Well, it would be a nasty shock for someone to configure --with-modules, >> and not get an error when dynamic modules cannot be used. > > I'm talking about the default case, where there's no --with-modules > option explicitly in the configure command line. If the user does > explicitly asks for modules, then emitting an error message is > reasonable. But if the user didn't ask for that explicitly, why not > silently disable the feature, like we do with HarfBuzz and others? The HarfBuzz check doesn't behave that way, since it doesn't use ifavailable. ``--with-modules'' does, however.