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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306876 Archived-At: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > Po Lu writes: >>> I don't want to waste that as well: we have enough issues and future >>> developments in the relevant parts of X and GTK where we could use >>> your resources better. >> >> The Android port is in fact directly pertinent to many of those future >> developments in X and GTK: for instance, it is currently not possible to >> use Emacs 30 on a X server with only touch-screen input, but it is on >> the feature/android branch. >> >> Some of those changes are quite extensive, and unfortunately, I don't >> have the time nor the motivation to separate them from the Android port, >> as I don't have the means to test any of them on X. > > So these need to be tested before merging would be viable at all. > > Do you have time and motivation to fix bugs reported by people testing > your port on X desktop? I do; I just don't have the time nor motivation to work on separating the changes relevant for other systems from the branch. It would become even harder for me if it were turned into a separate project.