From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:22:09 +0800 Message-ID: <87bkhb7tfy.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <83edmask4z.fsf@gnu.org> <874jn6fue3.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zg4yr1tf.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0qaee6b.fsf@yahoo.com> <83jzw2qy0l.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzvzopob.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30311"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Manuel Giraud Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 19 10:22:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBA9o-0007dJ-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 10:22:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBA9W-0003Au-1T; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 04:22:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBA9U-00039y-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 04:22:20 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic311-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.188.204]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBA9S-0004nh-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 04:22:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1687162937; bh=blBdlV4ck7TDwLzcPjB9N1tI77oy/PVGPWNQxYOyJRE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=TKEQglEbrdh7f3ZvAkOIj7B5ML1wBzP31CZnMs/xHGmTnE4iiGR65UG4dpvrQFstKKRdrxCfJ+7GBu5vH44tb7OFbj/keCMU73r5FlM2nHr0c2s751ZcomFcWsEZ8ZnAJKYJ7OXT/wmvlxVz08cPnyFGzd1tXCP4G347WhL/1qC/niH8I85ikfNeXRU84m2+d98Zpoz5SD2aWzFPBOJ//xdcz61FmhC04N1gvuZJ+Oa99jRq/YjwYmR3qHd0MmuVM+ZJahkydA73PVdyem6hwZr8K67fQoeIgyaKVsKdWGTKDNjA7t1JBdo9R/JxtbrCEAO+uwg6jmszKukQ5pZBiA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1687162937; bh=uqG1tGsUtkh8x83+jHujjDrR52nMZ3l+NQPl912Vuc8=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=bKGM+d1XhVUbrzpzWbLCtNNEk91dX7NQxPTUH/dvDOOd7Bp4Dv+hd9UctFnVoFBSIiwkPWDXWNuuQErN/KNh0+jBXKZ6wFIebxM5qOpktQftibdrfILLQgFLZMt8dXaHJFmQmOtwB15x0EfYKX1d57Q49cEp/cz6xzmY/t0oFzisjABjWCtkMghE+DGYuoNlLUCv4FCkBTXoZBuNBBphjz+i0NAdCEqkM0vFmqywp8Pz/EU30VY5vcvHaHukDpEKbt0+3risYAD2vQOFpujdGfbOvDyGQ5GQVTqyUygai4C/EZjbZ1QaAAUp9brXWontd9pbdXUsdx9UFfpOQ5HHoQ== X-YMail-OSG: V201SswVM1k_q47px3PgIi9nfaZfHFttmIz52T8.j3ueqAbhU.t.ds699Ig5Rp9 etTCRA2HlWcFDwYgKeCNMMB1knKHtlW0wfcMKcNUJgF3oA_FkOx2boIIkzwH.uOM.D7JxTvP68vC OHNLflm0c9Ki4VR3GsAqaoI0K1gQGCfBpeGvza1wPMi2yLcgt9JJ6cQgIbZDbYFucA0nduUOmpWw TQfghcPcOgDWIZmulzntl54XaZDSNL1qMJu2DIWUjUFSkgdx98eUop5rqGzqO6oncpmQ91vKqkR6 tmYTWid08uHy6LyKmbJwN6hPdExmr6uhv1OC6WxkGIh0aw_9CNVvZJ8UjF9hH5wwL2hGDiLaovYm UO0OtKObLoV9pNbALiIMTXtpJm4h78ETuf.KPMW.Zfbpdn98.asmwFigdxuf7iF6F2P6t8lta2ug ZeKsJgpXIjTsDA9BmiFUjVGDpEVRkgczIx0GCCQ_fEx4JUf2hhXYk13tYFMWagCUje_n0SoXo9YB j0kcmZMkvYU2bipiZOjJLCUy2ifI9S5dtuq8Fdgn4kR96Wpe0idQUjog5k72U3OQVy4S_oV396v1 1PG6w9Q0p4wASk4lHevA8.1x3eGjAHvpdOn_yWCW82rYCymbqYPlNIvLpKO1.b0wsqnojdoibmaB 3eYeK3n8nJOiy13Tfw58AW0yoSDw05rN2DRULHonCd0F7PBNQbJY8OoLt3BlpaQxZ4R5KCEl_6dX uLB2doa8aXhyQEvD3z3jg2XloV8E24ROpApaNEAoseuZqch2ArZEWXTXUbDT7eeXLd2Vp28eI7.o 05Y91P9gpHuiPosXTbg1NMuudNz4cu2.TwERfyJcd2 X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: 4b30b9dc-a4a6-4163-a835-943e73379d6c Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:22:17 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-748897c457-q47mh (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6e84bac218b58b32cdea3888c7e06e3e; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:22:14 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87jzvzopob.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2023 09:51:32 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21557 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.204; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic311-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307033 Archived-At: Manuel Giraud writes: > I'm far from being an Emacs developer but here is my 2 cents anyway. As > Eli said he would not be opposed to drop the NS port (for it to be > handled somewhere else), why not =C2=AB=C2=A0trade=C2=A0=C2=BB the NS por= t for the Android > one? Should the Android port become stale (with zero dev or whatever), > we could later drop this port too? FWIW, I'm in favor of dropping _none_ of the ports. NS is in a bad state, but is still much better than when it was first included: then, multiple Emacs users reported it in a completely unusable state, not even capable of running subprocesses without lock-ups, yet it still replaced Carbon Emacs. I feel obliged to mention, again, that when the NS port was installed, there was no commitment from anyone to keep it maintained. And it was actually broken.